willing to organize their friends and lobby on behalf of the legislation we worked on in california in sacramento. and i think that's made a huge difference. but we also, i think -- this is about organizing, right? it's about organizing workers, but it's also about organizing employers, to help employers understand what does it mean to provide a good working situation for the people that they employ? what does it mean to actually write a contract? there's a lot of education that i think we can to on this side of the equation, and that's part of the work we have to do. >> barbara, what would, what would you like to add on this relationship, employer/employee, and do you have advice to give, you know, domestic workers in how to manage it? >> um, i can tell you my experience in working with employers. now, there are some good employers, but there are some employers who don't, that don't see themselves as employers. they can interview 25 applicants and choose one person that they think is the best perp for the job -- the best person for the job. and then the person go in to work, they still don't see